--- name: sales-logonerds description: "LogoNerds (logonerds.com) platform help — a low-cost done-for-you HUMAN logo design service: real in-house designers turn your brief into custom concepts in a few business days, with free revisions + a scratch-redraw guarantee and VECTOR source files (.ai/.eps) even in the base package. NOT a DIY/AI logo maker you operate (Hatchful/DesignEvo/Namecheap) and NOT a many-designer contest (99designs/DesignCrowd) — it's ONE assigned team at a flat one-time fee: cheaper/simpler than a contest but less variety, more custom/owned than DIY makers but not free or instant (no online editor). Use for how the brief-to-delivery service works, which package and what files you get, turnaround and free-revision/redraw terms, whether the logo is vector and what you own, verifying originality/trademark, or whether it has an API (UI-only). Do NOT use to validate or name the idea (/sales-idea-validation, /sales-namelix), for a free/instant DIY logo (/sales-hatchful), or a many-designer contest (/sales-designcrowd)." argument-hint: "[describe what you need help with in LogoNerds]" license: MIT version: 1.0.0 tags: [sales, branding, pre-launch, platform] --- # LogoNerds Platform Help LogoNerds (**logonerds.com**) is a **low-cost, done-for-you HUMAN logo design service**. You fill out a **design brief**, get assigned a project manager, and **real in-house designers** produce **custom logo concepts** within a few business days; you request **free revisions** and receive the final files — including **vector source files (.ai / .eps)**. It sits in a **middle lane**: cheaper/simpler than the human contest marketplaces (`/sales-designcrowd`, 99designs — where 25–100+ designers *compete* on your brief), but more custom and more owned than the budget **DIY/AI logo-maker cluster** (Hatchful / DesignEvo / Namecheap / LOGO.com / LogoMaker — tools you operate yourself). Design is **downstream of a locked name, which is downstream of a validated idea**, so validate demand first (`/sales-idea-validation`) and settle the name (`/sales-namelix`) before you pay to brand it. **The first fact that frames every answer — it's ONE assigned human team at a flat fee, not a DIY tool and not a contest.** Real designers do the work *for* you (unlike the DIY makers you click through yourself), but only **one team** works your brief (unlike a contest, where **many** designers submit **competing** directions). vs a **contest** it's **cheaper, simpler, one point of contact — but less variety** (you steer one team via revisions instead of picking among many concepts); vs the **DIY cluster** it's **custom human work with real source files you own — but not free and not instant** (days, not minutes; **no online editor**, so every change means **waiting on a designer**). If someone wants a **free or instant** logo, this is the wrong tool — redirect to the DIY cluster. **The second fact — flat one-time per package, and VECTOR SOURCE FILES come in the base package.** You pay a **single flat fee per package** (no subscription, no stacked posting/percentage fees like a contest); packages differ by **number of concepts, revisions, and turnaround**. Deliverables reportedly include **Adobe Illustrator (.ai) + .eps vector** plus raster (.tiff/.png/.jpeg, incl. 300 dpi print) and TrueType fonts **from the base tier** — an unusually **cheap route to a human-made vector logo with source files**, where most of the DIY cluster gates vector behind a paid *upgrade*. All pricing/package specifics are **best-effort → confirm at logonerds.com** (live site blocks fetch). ## Step 1 — Gather context If `references/learnings.md` exists, read it first for accumulated platform knowledge. Ask only what you can't infer: 1. **What do you want from LogoNerds?** - A) **How the service works** (brief → assigned designer → concepts → revisions → files) - B) **Which package / price** — what each tier includes (concepts, revisions, turnaround, formats) - C) **What files / formats** you receive (vector .ai/.eps vs raster; is it print-ready?) - D) **Revisions & the redraw guarantee** — how many, and what "satisfaction/redraw" covers - E) **Ownership / copyright** — what you own, and originality/trademark concerns - F) **How it compares** — vs a DIY maker (Hatchful/DesignEvo) or vs a contest (DesignCrowd/99designs) - G) **Automate / integrate** ("API" / bulk — see Step 4) 2. **How custom + owned does it need to be?** A generic placeholder you want free/now → the DIY cluster is cheaper/faster; a **custom, owned** mark with source files without running a contest → LogoNerds; maximum *variety* / many competing directions → a contest. Skip-ahead: a *name* (not a design) → `/sales-namelix`; the validate-before-building *method* or a branding-tool comparison across the whole market → `/sales-idea-validation`; a **free/instant DIY logo** → `/sales-hatchful` (free PNG) or `/sales-namecheap-logo-maker` (free SVG); a **many-designer contest** → `/sales-designcrowd` — route in Step 2. ## Step 2 — Route or answer directly | If the user's question is about… | Route to | |---|---| | Generating the **business name** itself (not the design) | `/sales-namelix {question}` | | The validate-before-building **method**, or comparing branding/design tools across the market | `/sales-idea-validation {question}` | | A **free/instant DIY logo** (free PNG, no waiting on a designer) | `/sales-hatchful {question}` | | A **free DIY logo that also gives vector SVG** | `/sales-namecheap-logo-maker {question}` | | A **cheap one-time AI/template logo** you make yourself | `/sales-designevo {question}` | | A **many-designer contest** (25–100+ competing designs) | `/sales-designcrowd {question}` | | Building the wider **social/marketing creative** or a design system at scale | `/sales-canva {question}` | When routing, give the exact command: "This is a {domain} question — run: `/sales-namelix {original question}`" Otherwise, answer LogoNerds-specific questions using Step 3. ## Step 3 — LogoNerds reference **Read `references/platform-guide.md`** for the full reference — the **brief → assigned designer → concepts → revisions → files** workflow and every module's automation tag; the **package/pricing anatomy** (concepts, revisions, turnaround, formats) and how the **scratch-redraw guarantee** works; the **deliverables** (vector .ai/.eps vs raster, print-readiness) and **ownership/originality** caveats; the **middle-lane positioning** (vs the DIY cluster and vs contests); and the **no-public-API** reality (and what the affiliate program actually is). Answer using only the relevant section — don't dump the full reference. ## Step 4 — Actionable guidance - **Lead with the model: one assigned human team at a flat fee — not a DIY tool, not a contest.** Real designers do the work *for* you, but **one team** handles your brief and you steer it via **free revisions** (you don't pick among many competing concepts). The upside is **custom work + source files you own** at a low flat price; the cost is **days, not minutes, and no online editor** — every change waits on a designer. If they wanted **free or instant**, redirect to the DIY cluster (`/sales-hatchful`, `/sales-namecheap-logo-maker`). - **Quote the price as a flat one-time per-package fee, and flag it best-effort.** There's **no subscription** and **no stacked posting/percentage fees** (unlike a contest); packages differ by **concepts, revisions, and turnaround**. **Flag every figure as best-effort → confirm at logonerds.com** (live site blocks automated fetch, so exact prices/tier names may have moved). - **On files: confirm it delivers vector source files in the base package, but have them verify formats on-site.** Deliverables reportedly include **Adobe Illustrator (.ai) + .eps vector** plus raster (.tiff/.png/.jpeg, incl. 300 dpi print) and TrueType fonts — a **cheap route to a human-made vector logo with source files**, where most DIY makers gate vector behind an upgrade. State it best-effort and have them confirm the exact format list on-site. - **Explain revisions + the redraw guarantee honestly — and note the caveat.** Packages include a stated number of **free revisions** (more on higher tiers) and a **scratch/redraw guarantee** if you're not satisfied — but one reviewer questioned whether "unlimited revisions" is honored in practice. Tell users to **get the brief and required changes right early**, keep it in writing, and treat "unlimited" as best-effort (there's **no self-serve editor**). - **The custom human work helps originality — but ownership terms and trademark are still on you.** One designer producing custom art carries **less template-clash risk** than a shared-template DIY maker, **but** the public copyright/ownership terms aren't clearly documented (verify on-site what rights transfer) and **buying a logo ≠ a registered trademark** → before relying on the mark, **run a reverse-image search on the delivered design + a USPTO/EUIPO clearance + distinctiveness check**, and grab the domain + handles. - **There is NO public API — don't plan a pipeline around it.** It's a **human-in-the-loop service** driven by a **UI order form / brief** with **no REST endpoints, no webhooks, no Zapier/Make, no MCP**. The **affiliate program** (Awin-managed) is a **partner/referral** program, **not** an automation API — don't invent endpoints. For volume **generation**, use an **image-generation API**. If you discover a gotcha or tip not in `references/learnings.md`, append it there with today's date. ## Gotchas *Best-effort from research (2026-07) — pricing/package/format terms move and the live site blocks automated fetch, so figures came from third-party review writeups. Verify at logonerds.com.* - **One assigned human team at a flat fee — not a DIY tool, not a contest.** Real designers work your brief, but only one team (you steer via revisions, not many competing concepts) — cheaper/simpler than a contest, more custom/owned than a DIY maker, but **not free and not instant** (days, no online editor). - **Flat one-time per package — no subscription, no stacked posting/percentage fees.** Packages differ by concepts, revisions, and turnaround. Flag all figures best-effort → confirm at logonerds.com. - **Vector source files (.ai/.eps) reportedly come in the base package** — a cheap route to a human-made vector logo, where most DIY makers gate vector behind an upgrade. Confirm the exact format list on-site. - **"Unlimited revisions" is best-effort, and there's no self-serve editor.** One reviewer doubted it's honored; every change waits on a designer. Get the brief + required changes right early and keep it in writing. - **Ownership terms aren't clearly published, and a logo ≠ a registered trademark.** Custom human work lowers template-clash risk, but verify what rights transfer on-site and run a **reverse-image search + USPTO/EUIPO** clearance first. - **NO public API, webhooks, Zapier/Make, or MCP.** The affiliate program is a partner/referral program, not automation — don't invent endpoints. For volume generation, use an image-generation API. ## Related skills - `/sales-designcrowd` — The **many-designer contest** peer (25–100+ competing designs at a higher, fee-stacked price) — contrast with LogoNerds' single assigned team at a flat fee - `/sales-hatchful` — A **free/instant DIY** logo maker (free PNG) — the go-to when you don't want to pay or wait on a designer (LogoNerds is paid human work over days) - `/sales-namecheap-logo-maker` — A **free DIY** maker that even gives free vector SVG — contrast with LogoNerds' paid human-made vector - `/sales-designevo` — A **cheap one-time AI/template** logo maker you operate yourself — contrast a DIY tool's cost with a human done-for-you service - `/sales-namelix` — Generate the business name first (design is the hand-off from the name) - `/sales-idea-validation` — The validate-before-building method and the full naming/branding landscape (validate and name before you pay to brand it; also covers ownership-vs-trademark and print-readiness) - `/sales-canva` — Once the logo's done, build the wider marketing/social creative and design system at scale - `/sales-do` — Not sure which skill to use? The router matches any sales objective to the right skill. Install: `npx skills add sales-skills/sales --skill sales-do -a claude-code` ## Examples ### Example 1: "Is LogoNerds a logo maker? Why does it cost money when Hatchful is free?" (model / positioning) **User says**: "I found LogoNerds — is it like Canva or Hatchful? Why pay when other logo tools are free?" **Skill does**: Explains LogoNerds is a **done-for-you human service**, not a DIY tool — **real designers** turn your brief into custom concepts over a few days, steered via **free revisions**, with **no online editor**. It's **one assigned team at a flat fee** (cheaper/simpler than a contest, but less variety than 25–100+ competing designers). The paid part buys **custom human work + source files you own**; if they want **free/instant**, points to `/sales-hatchful` or `/sales-namecheap-logo-maker`. Flags prices best-effort → logonerds.com. **Result**: The user understands the middle-lane model and picks LogoNerds or a free DIY tool deliberately. ### Example 2: "Do I get a vector file I can use for print, and do I own the logo?" (files / ownership / originality) **User says**: "If I buy a LogoNerds package, do I get a vector logo for signage, and is it legally mine?" **Skill does**: Says deliverables reportedly include **vector source files (.ai/.eps)** plus print-ready raster (300 dpi) **even in the base package** — a cheap route to a human-made vector (best-effort → confirm the format list on-site). On ownership: custom human work lowers template-clash risk, **but** the public ownership terms aren't clearly documented (verify what rights transfer on logonerds.com) and **a logo ≠ a registered trademark** — so run a **reverse-image search on the delivered design + a USPTO/EUIPO** clearance before relying on the mark. **Result**: The user confirms vector/print-readiness and plans proper originality + trademark checks. ### Example 3: "Is there a LogoNerds API so I can order logos from my app?" (developer/automation) **User says**: "Can I automate LogoNerds — an API to submit briefs and pull finished logos programmatically?" **Skill does**: States LogoNerds has **no public API** — a **human-in-the-loop service** driven by a UI order form/brief with **no documented REST endpoints, webhooks, Zapier/Make, or MCP**, so orders **cannot be scripted**; clarifies the **affiliate program** is a partner/referral program, **not** automation, and doesn't invent endpoints. For programmatic **generation** at volume, suggests an **image-generation service with a documented API**. **Result**: The user avoids building on a nonexistent API and picks a workable path. ## Troubleshooting ### "I expected to design the logo myself but there's no editor" **Symptom**: You went to LogoNerds expecting a Canva/Hatchful-style editor and there's only a brief/order form. **Cause**: LogoNerds is a **done-for-you service**, not a DIY tool — **designers create the logo for you**, and there is **no self-serve online editor**; you steer the result through the **brief and free revisions**. **Solution**: Write a **specific brief** (audience, style references, colors, what to avoid) up front, since every change means **waiting on a designer**. If you actually want to click-and-drag it yourself, use a DIY maker (`/sales-hatchful`, `/sales-namecheap-logo-maker`, `/sales-designevo`). ### "How many revisions do I really get, and what if I hate all the concepts?" **Symptom**: You're unsure whether "free revisions" / "unlimited revisions" and the guarantee will actually cover you. **Cause**: Packages include a stated number of **free revisions** (more on higher tiers) and a **scratch/redraw guarantee** if you're unsatisfied — but one reviewer **questioned whether "unlimited" is honored** in practice, and there's no editor to self-serve changes. **Solution**: Treat "unlimited" as **best-effort**; nail the **brief and required changes early**, keep requests **in writing**, and confirm the current revision/redraw terms for your package on **logonerds.com** before ordering. ### "Is the logo legally mine, and could the designer have copied it?" **Symptom**: You want to be sure you own the delivered logo and that it's original. **Cause**: A single designer producing **custom** art carries **less template-clash risk** than a shared-template DIY maker, **but** the public copyright/ownership terms aren't clearly documented and **buying a logo ≠ a registered trademark**; human designers can still trace/copy. **Solution**: Verify on **logonerds.com** exactly **what rights transfer**, then before relying on the mark run a **reverse-image search** on the delivered design + a **USPTO/EUIPO** clearance + distinctiveness check, and grab the domain + social handles.